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					<description><![CDATA[Introduction To prove that Isa (AS) is alive, Anti-Ahmadis dig far and wide. In the previous article, we showed how they did a blasphemous Tahrif (editing) in the manuscript of a hadith book to add the word, min as-Sama (from the heaven). In this article, we will show how they . . . <a class="readmore-link" href="https://whiteminaret.org/nuzul/descend-from-heaven-al-bazzar/">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Introduction</h2>



<p>To prove that Isa (AS) is alive, Anti-Ahmadis dig far and wide. <a href="https://whiteminaret.org/nuzul/bayhaqi-samaa-hadith/" data-type="post" data-id="9307">In the previous article, we showed how they did a blasphemous Tahrif (editing) in the manuscript of a hadith book to add the word, min as-Sama (from the heaven).</a></p>



<p>In this article, we will show how they finally managed to get a narration from Musnad al-Bazzar (Arabic: مسند البزار):</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">٩٦٤٢- حَدَّثَنا علي بن المنذر , حَدَّثَنا مُحَمَّد بن فضيل , عَنْ عَاصِمِ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍ , عَنْ أَبِيهِ , عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْهُ ,&nbsp;قال:&nbsp;سمعت من أبي القاسم الصادق المصدوق يقول يخرج الأعور الدجال مسيح الضلالة قبل المشرق في زمن اختلاف من الناس وفرقة فيبلغ ما شاء الله أن يبلغ من الأرض في أربعين يوما الله أعلم ما مقدارها؟ فيلقى المؤمنون شدة شديدة،&nbsp;ثم ينزل عيسى بن مريم صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ <strong>من السماء</strong> فيقوم الناس فإذا رفع رأسه من ركعته قال:&nbsp;سمع الله لمن حمده قتل الله الدجال وظهر المؤمنون فأحلف أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أبا القاسم الصادق المصدوق صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قال: إنه لحق وأما قريب فكل ما هو آت قريب.</p>



<p><strong>9642</strong> &#8211; Ali ibn al-Mundhir narrated to us, Muhammad ibn Fudayl narrated to us, from &#8216;Asim ibn Kulayb, from his father, from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said:</p>



<p>&#8220;I heard from Abu al-Qasim, the Truthful, the Confirmed [Prophet Muhammad ﷺ], saying: &#8216;The one-eyed Dajjal (Antichrist), the messiah of misguidance, will emerge from the East during a time of disagreement and division among people. He will reach whatever Allah wills him to reach of the earth in forty days &#8211; Allah knows best their duration. The believers will face severe hardship. Then Jesus, son of Mary, peace be upon him, will descend <strong>from the heaven</strong>. When people stand [for prayer] and he raises his head from his bow (ruku&#8217;), he will say: &#8220;Allah hears those who praise Him,&#8221; [and then] Allah will kill the Dajjal and the believers will prevail.&#8217;</p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">I swear that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, Abu al-Qasim, the Truthful, the Confirmed ﷺ, said: &#8216;Indeed, this is the truth. As for [it being] near, everything that is coming is near.'&#8221;</p>
<cite><a href="https://shamela.ws/book/12981/9206" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Musnad al-Bazzar 9642]</a></cite></blockquote>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Refutation</h2>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Addition of Narrator</h3>



<p>When we examine hadith literature about the descent (<em>nuzul</em>) of Isa (AS), we find numerous narrations mentioning his &#8220;descent&#8221; but <strong>none of the versions have the words &#8220;from the heavens&#8221; (<em>min as-samaa</em>)</strong> &#8211; until we encounter this particular narration in Musnad al-Bazzar.</p>



<p>Interestingly, this same version of the hadith with very similar chain and exact wording is found in many ahadith book like Sahih Ibn Hibban but DOES NOT have the words &#8220;from the heavens&#8221; (min as-samaa).</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Sahih Ibn Hibban</h4>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو يَعْلَى قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو خَيْثَمَةَ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا يُونُسُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا صَالِحُ بْنُ عُمَرَ* قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَاصِمُ بْنُ كُلَيْبٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ يَقُولُ أُحَدِّثُكُمْ مَا سَمِعْتُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ الصَّادِقِ الْمَصْدُوقِ حَدَّثَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ أَبُو الْقَاسِمِ الصَّادِقُ الْمَصْدُوقُ «إِنَّ الْأَعْوَرَ الدَّجَّالَ مَسِيحَ الضَّلَالَةِ يَخْرُجُ مِنْ قِبَلِ الْمَشْرِقِ فِي زَمَانِ اخْتِلَافٍ مِنَ النَّاسِ وَفُرْقَةٍ فَيَبْلُغُ مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ مِنَ الْأَرْضِ فِي أَرْبَعِينَ يَوْمًا اللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ مَا مِقْدَارُهَا اللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ مَا مِقْدَارُهَا مَرَّتَيْنِ <strong>وَيُنَزِّلُ اللَّهُ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ</strong> فَيَؤُمُّهُمْ فَإِذَا رَفَعَ رَأْسَهُ مِنَ الرَّكْعَةِ قَالَ سَمِعَ اللَّهُ لِمَنْ حَمِدَهُ قَتَلَ اللَّهُ الدَّجَّالَ وَأَظْهَرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ»</p>



<p>Asim ibn Kulayb, on the authority of his father, who said, I heard Abu Hurayrah say, I narrate to you what I heard from the Messenger of Allah, the Truthful, the Believed.</p>



<p>The Messenger of Allah, the Truthful, the Believed said: “The one-eyed Dajjal, the false messiah, will emerge from the direction of the east during a time of difference and division among the people. He will reach whatever point on earth Allah wills in forty days—Allah knows best their length—Allah knows best their length—twice. And Allah will send down Isa, son of Mary, and he will lead them in prayer. When he raises his head from the bowing position [in prayer], he will say, ‘Allah has heard the one who praises Him. Allah has killed the Dajjal and given victory to the believers.’”</p>
<cite><a href="https://hadithweb.com/ibnhibban:6812" data-type="link" data-id="https://hadithweb.com/ibnhibban:6812" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih Ibn Hibban 6812]</a></cite></blockquote>



<p>It proves that these words are an addition of the 1 or 2 different narrators in Musnad al-Bazzar. Here are the chains for both narration to easily visualize.</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>              Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
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               Abu Hurairah (رضي الله عنه)
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                    Kulayb
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               Asim ibn Kulayb
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            ┌─────────┴──────────┐
            |                    |
    &#91;Musnad al-Bazzar]    &#91;Ibn Hibban]
            |                    |
    Muhammad ibn Fudayl     Diff narrator
            |                    |
    Ali ibn al-Mundhir      Diff narrator
            |                    |
    &#x2705; Has Heaven         &#x274c; NO Heaven</code></pre>



<p>As you can notice, there are 2 different narrators after Asim bin Kulayb. If the words &#8216;from the heavens&#8217; were said by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), then either Abu Huraira (RA), Kulaib, or Asim bin Kulayb would have mentioned it.</p>



<p>Since they did not, it is assumed that the words are an addition of either of the 2 narrators, or an addition by al-Bazzar while writing.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><a href="https://shamela.ws/book/13159/229" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Musnad Ishaq ibn Rahwayh</a></h3>



<p>This narration is also found in another hadith collection from very early Islam. Abu Yaqub Ishaq ibn Ibrahim ibn Mukhallad ibn Ibrahim al-Hanthali al-Marwazi, known as Ibn Rahawayh (d. 238 AH) collected this narration in his Musnad and does not contain the words &#8216;Samaa&#8217; either.</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">أَخْبَرَنَا الْمَخْزُومِيُّ، نا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ بْنُ زِيَادٍ، نا عَاصِمُ بْنُ كُلَيْبٍ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي قَالَ،: كُنْتُ جَالِسًا مَعَ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ فِي مَسْجِدِ الْكُوفَةِ: فَأَتَاهُ رَجُلٌ فَقَالَ: أَأَنْتَ الْقَائِلُ تُصَلِّي مَعَ عِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ، قَالَ: يَا أَهْلَ الْعِرَاقِ إِنِّي قَدْ عَلِمْتُ أَنْ سَيُكَذِّبُونِي وَلَا يَمْنَعُنِي ذَلِكَ أَنْ أُحَدِّثَ بِمَا سَمِعْتُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، حَدَّثَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ الصَّادِقُ الْمَصْدُوقُ أَنَّ الدَّجَّالَ يَخْرُجُ مِنَ الْمَشْرِقِ فِي حِينِ فُرْقَةٍ مِنَ النَّاسِ فَيَبْلُغُ كُلَّ مَبْلَغٍ فِي أَرْبَعَينَ يَوْمًا فَيُزِلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْهُ أَزَلًا شَدِيدًا، وَتَأْخُذُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ فِيهِ شِدَّةٌ شَدِيدَةٌ، <strong>فَينْزِلُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ</strong> فَيُصَلِّي بِهِمْ فَإِذَا رَفَعَ رَأْسَهُ مِنَ الرُّكُوعِ أَهْلَكَ اللَّهُ الدَّجَّالَ وَمَنْ مَعَهُ، فَأَمَّا قَوْلِي إِنَّهُ حَقٌّ، قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ وَأَمَّا قَوْلِي: إِنِّي أَطْمَعُ أَنْ أُدْرِكَ ذَلِكَ فَلَعَلِّي أَنْ أُدْرِكَهُ عَلَى مَا يُرَى مِنْ بَيَاضِ شَعْرِي وَرِقَّةِ جِلْدِي وَقَدْحِ مَوْلِدِي فَيَرْحَمُنِي اللَّهُ تَعَالَى فَأُدْرِكُهُ فَأُصَلِّي مَعَهُ، ارْجِعْ إِلَى أَهْلِكَ فَأَخْبِرَهُمْ بِمَا أَخْبَرَكَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، فَقَالَ الرَّجُلُ: أَيْنَ يَكُونَ ذَلِكَ؟ قَالَ: فَأَخَذَ حَصًى مِنْ مَسْجِدٍ، فَقَالَ: مِنْ هَاهُنَا وَأَعَادَ الرَّجُلُ عَلَيْهِ، فَقَالَ: أَتُرِيدُ أَنْ أَقُولَ مِنْ مَسْجِدِ الْكُوفَةِ، هُوَ يَخْرُجُ مِنَ الْأَرْضِ قَبْلَ أَنْ تُبَدَّلَ، يَجْعَلُهُ اللَّهُ حَيْثُ شَاءَ</p>



<p>Al-Makhzumi informed us, Abd al-Wahid ibn Ziyad narrated to us, Asim ibn Kulayb narrated to us, my father told me, he said: I was sitting with Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) in the mosque of Kufa when a man came to him and said: &#8220;Are you the one who claims you will pray with Jesus son of Mary?&#8221;</p>



<p>He said: &#8220;O people of Iraq, I know that you will deny me, but that will not prevent me from narrating what I heard from the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), the truthful and trustworthy, told us that the Dajjal will emerge from the East during a time of division among people, and he will reach every place in forty days. The believers will be greatly disturbed by him, and severe hardship will befall the believers because of him. <strong>Then Jesus son of Mary will descend and lead them in prayer.</strong> When he raises his head from bowing, Allah will destroy the Dajjal and those with him.</p>



<p>As for my saying that this is true &#8211; the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said it, and it is the truth. As for my saying that I hope to witness this &#8211; perhaps I will witness it despite what you see of the whiteness of my hair, the thinness of my skin, and my advanced age, so Allah may have mercy on me and I will witness it and pray with him. Go back to your family and tell them what Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) has told you.&#8221;</p>



<p>The man said: &#8220;Where will this happen?&#8221; He took some pebbles from the mosque and said: &#8220;From here.&#8221; The man repeated his question to him, so he said: &#8220;Do you want me to say from the mosque of Kufa? He will emerge from the earth before it is transformed &#8211; Allah will place him wherever He wills.&#8221;</p>
<cite><a href="https://shamela.ws/book/13159/229" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Musnad Ishaq ibn Rahwayh 262]</a></cite></blockquote>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Addition of publishers</h2>



<p>Another possibility is that these words were not part of the manuscripts of the Musnad al-Bazzar but were added during the official publication of this book. Here is the description of the book by the famous <a href="https://shamela.ws/book/12981" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shamela.ws website</a> and as you can see, it was published very recently; a 100 years after the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (AS).</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">الكتاب: مسند البزار المنشور باسم البحر الزخار<br>المؤلف: أبو بكر أحمد بن عمرو بن عبد الخالق بن خلاد بن عبيد الله العتكي المعروف بالبزار (ت ٢٩٢ هـ)<br>المحقق: محفوظ الرحمن زين الله (جـ ١ &#8211; ٩)، عادل بن سعد (جـ ١٠ &#8211; ١٧)، صبري عبد الخالق الشافعي (جـ ١٨)<br>الناشر: مكتبة العلوم والحكم &#8211; المدينة المنورة<br>الطبعة: الأولى، (بدأت ١٩٨٨ م، وانتهت ٢٠٠٩ م)<br>عدد الأجزاء: ١٨<br>تنبيه: ترقيم أحاديث الجزء (١٨) غير متسلسل مع بقية الكتاب، وإنما جعل له المحقق ترقيما مستقلا<br>[ترقيم الكتاب موافق للمطبوع]</p>



<p><strong>Book</strong>: Musnad al-Bazzar, published as al-Bahr al-Zakhkhar<br><strong>Author</strong>: Abu Bakr Ahmad ibn Amr ibn Abd al-Khaliq ibn Khallad ibn Ubayd Allah al-Utaki, known as al-Bazzar (d. 292 AH)<br><strong>Editor</strong>: Mahfuz al-Rahman Zayn Allah (volumes 1-9), Adil ibn Sa&#8217;d (volumes 10-17), Sabri Abd al-Khaliq al-Shafi&#8217;i (volume 18)<br><strong>Publisher</strong>: Maktabat al-Ulum wa al-Hikam &#8211; Madinah al-Munawwarah<br><strong>Edition</strong>: First (began 1988 CE, <strong>completed 2009 CE</strong>)<br><strong>Number of volumes</strong>: 18<br><strong>Note</strong>: The hadith numbering in volume 18 is not sequential with the rest of the book; rather, the editor gave it independent numbering. [The book numbering corresponds to the printed edition]</p>
</blockquote>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Conclusion</h2>



<p>In conclusion, the words &#8216;samaa&#8217; are an addition of a narrator or a mistake during publication of the book. As multiple ahadith books with similar Isnad (chain of narrators) do not contain these words.</p>



<p>Moreover, some of the scholars who quote al-Bazzar&#8217;s narration, do not always quote the words &#8216;samaa&#8217; in it.</p>



<p>Finally, it is extremely entertaining to watch these guys scour through ahadith books to find 1 anomaly that aren&#8217;t even the words of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW).</p>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Introduction</h2>



<p>There is a famous Anti-Ahmadiyya book circulated on the internet. It is titled: &#8220;<em>An Unequivocal Clarification &#8211; Exposing the Qadiyani Ahmadiyya Sect</em>&#8220;<sup class="modern-footnotes-footnote ">1</sup>. The author was a renowned Sunni scholar and the Imam of the Masjid Haram in Mecca. The book is filled with blatant lies and absolute filth about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS).</p>



<p>In this article, we will expose many of the lies from this book.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Author&#8217;s Introduction</h2>



<p>I will post the introduction of the author as written in the book itself.</p>



<p>This should be enough to show that no matter the &#8216;high&#8217; caliber of these so-called &#8216;scholars&#8217;, they are no different than the ignorant laymen on social media.</p>



<pre class="wp-block-preformatted">He is the scholar and Imām, Shaykh Abū ‘Abdillāh Muḥammad bin ‘Abdillāh as-Subayyil b.<br>He was born in 1345 AH (1924 CE), and he passed away in 1434 AH (2012 CE).<br><br><strong>» HIS POSITIONS:<br></strong>• Imām and Khaṭīb at Masjid al-Ḥarām in Makkah<br>• Member of the Permanent Committee of Scholars<br>• Member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy<br>• President of General Affairs in Masjid al-Ḥarām and Masjid an-Nabawī in Madīnah.<br><br><strong>» HIS DA’WAH EFFORTS:<br></strong>Shaykh Muḥammad as-Subayyil authored numerous works and had many great efforts in da’wah, visiting more than 50 countries to teach and spread Islām, such that many people accepted Islām by way of Allāh and then though his da’wah and gentleness.<br><br><strong>» HIS SCHOLARS:<br></strong>Shaykh Muḥammad as-Subayyil studied with a number of scholars, among them:<br>• Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azīz as-Subayyil (his brother), the judge of Bekeriyah<br>• Shaykh ‘Abdullāh as-Subayyil (his father)<br>• Shaykh Muḥammad bin Muqbil al-Muqbil, the judge of Bekeriyah<br>• Shaykh ‘Abdullāh bin Ḥumayd<br><br><strong>» HIS STUDENTS:<br></strong>Shaykh Muḥammad as-Subayyil had many students, among them:<br>• Shaykh Ṣāliḥ al-Luhaydān<br><strong><em>• Shaykh Ṣāliḥ al-Fawzān<br></em></strong>• Shaykh Muqbil bin Hādī al-Wādi’ī</pre>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Blatant Lies</h2>



<p>In this section, we will only list the very blatant lies mentioned in the book</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Death on toilet</h3>



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<p><em>The Indian newspaper also published a piece on the death of Ghulām Aḥmad. They stated that, when Ghulām Aḥmad al-Qādiyānī—the false prophet—was stricken with cholera, t<strong>here was filth exiting from his mouth prior to his death. And he died while sitting on the toilet, defecating in the bathroom.</strong></em></p>
<cite>[Pg 11232321]</cite></blockquote>



<p>This is a blatant lie without any citation. No newspaper has this and there is no proof of this anywhere.</p>



<p>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) died exactly like the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), surrounded by his family, in remembrance of Allah and after prophesying his own death. <em><a href="https://whiteminaret.org/allegations-on-messiah/similarities-death-of-muhammad-saw/" data-type="post" data-id="5827">Full article can be read here.</a></em></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Death after hitting on the bed</h3>



<p>The next lie he makes up is that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) dies because he hit his head on the bed post. So what is true? He died because he hit on the bed post or that he died on the toilet? This ignorant Mawlavi can&#8217;t even make up his mind.</p>



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<p><em>When he stopped vomiting, he wanted to lie down, but <strong>he fell down on the bed and hit his head against the wooden bedpost and died.</strong><br>Reference: Mirzā Bashīr ad-Dīn. Biography of the Mahdī, 1/11, narration #12.</em></p>
<cite>[Pg 11232321]</cite></blockquote>



<p>He quotes a reference but no such reference exists in the book, <em>Seeratul Mahdi</em> that says Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (AS) died after hitting his head on the bed post. <em><a href="https://whiteminaret.org/allegations-on-messiah/death-on-toilet/" data-type="post" data-id="5230">Full article can be read here again which contains the narrations from the same book.</a></em></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Deny Virgin Birth of Isa (AS)</h3>



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<p>» THEY DENY THAT JESUS  WAS BORN WITHOUT A FATHER<br>They deny that Jesus (‘Īsā)  was born from a mother without a father. They say that he has a father; thus, they accuse Allāh of lying in His statement:</p>



<p><em>Verily, the likeness of Jesus with Allāh is the likeness of Ādam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: “Be!” and he was.</em><br>[Sūrah Āli ‘Imrān 3:59]</p>
<cite>[Pg 11232321]</cite></blockquote>



<p>This is again a blatant lie and no reference from any book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) is quoted. Ahmad (AS) has numerous times mentioned that Isa (AS) was born without a father. <em>Full article with references can be read here.</em></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Deny Miracles of Prophets</h3>



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<p>» THEY REJECT THE MIRACLES OF THE PROPHETS<br>They reject the miracles of the prophets, even though these miracles are narrated through reports with numerous chains of narration; and they are stated in several places in the Qur&#8217;ān, such as in the stories of Ṣāliḥ, Moses (Mūsā), Jesus, and Muḥammad.</p>
<cite>[Pg 14]</cite></blockquote>



<p>Another lie and again without any reference or citation.</p>



<p>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) never denied any miracle of any prophets. On the contrary, he showed numerous miracles throughout his life, like healing the sick, death prophecy of many individuals, miracles through acceptance of dua and many more. <em>These can be read under the section of our website called, <a href="https://whiteminaret.org/tag/sign-of-messiah/" data-type="post_tag" data-id="290">Sign of Messiah</a></em>.</p>



<p>Ahmad (AS) even challenged his enemies that they can throw him into a live burning hell fire and God would save him like he saved Ibrahim (AS).</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Abrogated Jihad</h3>



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<p>» THEY CLAIM THAT JIHĀD HAS BEEN ABROGATED<br>They claim that jihād has been abrogated, even though the Qur&#8217;ān, the Sunnah, and the consensus of the scholars [all agree] that it remains.</p>
<cite>[Pg 14]</cite></blockquote>



<p>No citation or reference again!</p>



<p>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) never claimed that Jihad is abrogated. He even rejected the theory of abrogation (Naskh Mansukh) that Sunnis believe in. They believe that there commandments and verses in Quran that are abrogated (are useless) and can never be used for legal rulings or otherwise. <em><a href="https://whiteminaret.org/allegations-on-messiah/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-as-declare-jihad-haram/" data-type="post" data-id="5977">Full article here</a>.</em></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Get Money from British and British Spies</h3>



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<p>» THEY HAVE ANIMOSITY &amp; ENMITY TOWARDS THE MUSLIMS<br>Their enmity towards the Muslims is immense while they have allegiance towards the non-Muslims, especially Britain, from whom they receive large amounts of money to disseminate their false beliefs. For this reason, you will rarely find a country that England has colonized except that the Ahmadiyya have centers and preachers within it. They even established a center in Israel, where they are given complete support and assistance such that they publish a monthly magazine there called Al-Bushra. All of this—and other matters, as well, which will be mentioned during this analysis—proves that they have evil intentions against the Muslims, and their destructive principles clearly oppose the religion of Islām and contradict the  foundations and principles of this religion.</p>
<cite>[Pg 14]</cite></blockquote>



<p>Again no citation or reference. What is wrong with this &#8216;scholar&#8217;? Why can&#8217;t he ever provide any proof of his claim?</p>



<p>This is absolutely absurd. Ahmadi Muslims are probably the only group of Muslims who never receives monetary favors from any country or any other group. Unlike the Sunni Muslims who get government funding from the British government and other governments around the world. This has been the case since the British were in India. Just one example is the famous Salafi Sunni Green Lane Masjid in UK receiving multi million dollar donation from the government.<sup class="modern-footnotes-footnote ">2</sup><a href="https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-youth-centre-plan-green-27471770" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Birminghammail.co.uk]</a><sup class="modern-footnotes-footnote ">3</sup></p>



<p>Lastly, Arab Sunnis converted to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community settled in Palestine, long before the Sunnis lost it to the Zionists. Just like many Sunni Muslims, they have been living in the Palestine since decades. Claiming that Ahmadis get any special favors from Israel is completely absurd, that too without citing any source.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">No Miracles from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS)?</h3>



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<p>His followers answered his call and believed in him without any evidence or clear proof from him; rather, they followed<br>him simply because he appealed to them. They complied with his wishes without scrutinizing his statements or examining his claim. If they’d had any knowledge about the rules of the religion, the verses from the Qur&#8217;ān, and the miracles of the prophets and messengers, they would have never accepted his fallacious claim; they would have never accepted his fabrication. Surely, it is a must that prophets bring miracles and evidence to substantiate their prophethood, miracles that will necessitate the people to believe in them [because they can do] things man is not able to do.<br><br>If only these Qādiyānis would have requested their alleged prophet to perform any such miracle so they would have proof of his truthfulness.</p>
<cite>[Pg 23]</cite></blockquote>



<p>I am tired of repeating but again, he cites no proof or a reference.</p>



<p>I have already mentioned the numerous miracles of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS). <em>These can be read under the section of our website called, <a href="https://whiteminaret.org/tag/sign-of-messiah/" data-type="post_tag" data-id="290">Sign of Messiah</a></em>.</p>



<p>The rest is childish tantrums saying people believe in him without evidence and so on. Unlike the &#8216;Giant scholar&#8217; of Sunnis, we will stay academic.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Qadian greater than Mecca and Madina?</h3>



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<p>» GHULĀM AḤMAD CLAIMED THAT HIS HOMELAND OF QADIAN IS GREATER THAN MAKKAH &amp; MADĪNAH<br>He said: “Verily, the Noble Qur&#8217;ān mentions the names of three towns with reverence and veneration: Makkah, Madīnah,<br>and Qadian.”11</p>



<p>He said: “Verily, Qadian is the Mother of Towns; whoever cuts it off will be cut and shredded. Thus, fear lest you be cut and shredded. The fruits of Makkah and Madīnah have ceased, but the fruits of Qadian continue to be fresh.”12</p>



<p>&#8212;-</p>



<p>11 Notes on Dispelling Illusions, p. 34<br>12 The Reality of Dreams, p. 46</p>
<cite>[Pg 34]</cite></blockquote>



<p>Finally, he gave some references to his lies.</p>



<p>The first reference does not say Qadian is greater than Mecca and Medina. Rather, it is placed third, after Mecca and Medina. Moreover, the statement is from Kashf (vision) of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS). Read more here.</p>



<p>The second reference is not from any book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS). <strong>There is no book named <em>The Reality of Dreams</em> by Ahmad (AS).</strong></p>



<p><em>There are many more lies and misquotes in the book but it will be added to this article over a period of time.</em></p>
<h2 class="modern-footnotes-list-heading ">References</h2><div>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.emaanlibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Exposing-the-Qadiyani-Ahmadiyya-Sect-Sh.-Muhammad-as-Subayyil.pdf">Emaan Library</a></div><div>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-youth-centre-plan-green-27471770">New youth centre plan as Green Lane Masjid gets £2.2m investment</a> [</div><div>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>]]></content:encoded>
					
		
		
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		<title>Will Isa (AS) descend from the Heaven/Sky (Samaa)? Imam Bayhaqi&#8217;s narration</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Introduction asdasd To prove that Isa (AS) is alive, Anti-Ahmadis quote a narration from Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat (Arabic: الأسماء والصفات) by Imam al-Baihaqi (RH) which says the following: أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْحَافِظُ، أنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، أنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، ثنا ابْنُ بُكَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنِي اللَّيْثُ، عَنْ يُونُسَ، عَنِ . . . <a class="readmore-link" href="https://whiteminaret.org/nuzul/bayhaqi-samaa-hadith/">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Introduction</h2>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">asdasd</h3>



<p>To prove that Isa (AS) is alive, Anti-Ahmadis quote a narration from Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat (Arabic: الأسماء والصفات) by Imam al-Baihaqi (RH) which says the following:</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْحَافِظُ، أنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، أنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، ثنا ابْنُ بُكَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنِي اللَّيْثُ، عَنْ يُونُسَ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، مَوْلَى أَبِي قَتَادَةَ الْأَنْصَارِيِّ قَالَ: إِنَّ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «<strong>كَيْفَ أَنْتُمْ إِذَا نَزَلَ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فِيكُمْ وَإِمَامُكُمْ مِنْكُمْ</strong>» . رَوَاهُ الْبُخَارِيُّ فِي الصَّحِيحِ عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ بُكَيْرٍ، وَأَخْرَجَهُ مُسْلِمٌ مِنْ وَجْهٍ آخَرَ عَنْ يُونُسَ. وَإِنَّمَا أَرَادَ نُزُولَهُ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ بَعْدَ الرَّفْعِ إِلَيْهِ</p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">“What will be your condition when the son of Maryam (i.e. ‘Eisa) will&nbsp;descend amongst you <strong>from the heavens</strong>&nbsp;and your Imam will be from amongst you?”</p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">Bukhari narrated it in al-Sahih from Yahya bin Bukayr. And Muslim also narrated it through another chain from Yunus&nbsp;(bin Yazid). And they (also) meant his descent from the Heavens after his ascension towards it.</p>
<cite>[Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat]</cite></blockquote>



<p>Anti-Ahmadis allege that since this hadith mentions the coming of the Messiah from the skies, thus, it proves that Jesus (AS) is alive.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Refutation</h2>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Decietful Tehreef (Distortion)</h3>



<p>Anti-Ahmadis cannot change the Holy Quran, as Allah has promised to protect it, so they alter what they can. This hadith does not contain the word <strong>‘samaa’ (مِنَ السَّمَاءِ)</strong> or has any reference to heavens/skies. It is a deceitful and dangerous addition by the Anti-Ahmadis. A complete tahrif in the words of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW).</p>



<p>The correct wording is:</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">كَيْفَ أَنْتُمْ إِذَا نَزَلَ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ فِيكُمْ وَإِمَامُكُمْ مِنْكُمْ </p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">How will you be when the son of Mary descends amongst you and&nbsp;is your imam among you.</p>
<cite>[Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat]</cite></blockquote>



<p>The following are four different manuscripts of the hadith book <em>al-Asma’ wa al-Sifat</em>. None of them contain the word <strong>‘samaa’</strong> or <strong>‘min al-samaa’</strong>. So how can any computerized or printed version of this book include this word?</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Manuscript 1</h4>


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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Manuscript 2</h4>


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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Manuscript 3</h4>


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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Manuscript 4</h4>


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<p>These manuscripts can be downloaded directly from source as well.<sup class="modern-footnotes-footnote ">1</sup></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Does any Manuscript has the word Samaa?</h3>



<p>Some deceitful Anti-Ahmadis might share a PDF of a manuscript that supposedly contains the word ‘samaa’. This is an even greater deception than what we discussed above. An Anti-Ahmadi group has deliberately edited the manuscript to insert this word.</p>



<p>What’s shocking is that they chose <strong>Manuscript 1</strong> from above to alter. We compared the original manuscript with the PDF these Anti-Ahmadis share on <a href="https://archive.org/details/111_20210323/page/n178/mode/1up?view=theater" target="_blank" rel="noopener">archive.org</a>.</p>



<p><em>You can clearly see that the entire page is unchanged except for the spot where they added the word ‘min al-samaa’. To make it fit, they shrank the font for the rest of the line so everything would stay on the same line. It is unbelievable to see these so-called Muslims go to such extremes to fabricate the words of our Prophet Muhammad (SAW).</em></p>


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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><a href="https://whiteminaret.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Bayhaqi_minas-samaa-tehreef-gif-small-size.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1024" height="1024" src="https://whiteminaret.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Bayhaqi_minas-samaa-tehreef-gif-small-size.gif" alt="" class="wp-image-9330" style="width:524px"/></a><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Zoomed in page of Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat of Imam Bayhaqi which shows the clear addition</figcaption></figure></div>

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<figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><a href="https://whiteminaret.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Bayhaqi_minas-samaa-tehreef-gif-full-page-small-size.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1024" height="1024" src="https://whiteminaret.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Bayhaqi_minas-samaa-tehreef-gif-full-page-small-size.gif" alt="" class="wp-image-9331" style="width:524px;height:auto"/></a><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Full page of Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat of Imam Bayhaqi which shows the clear addition</figcaption></figure></div>


<p>Not so shockingly, the distorted manuscript on <a href="https://archive.org/details/111_20210323/page/n178/mode/1up?view=theater" target="_blank" rel="noopener">archive.org</a> is uploaded by the same Anti-Ahmadi culprits, <a href="https://archive.org/details/@sachi_bat" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong><em>Khatam e Nabuwat Times</em></strong></a>. This is the same organization that persecutes and kills Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan and carries out other attacks on the community worldwide. One can see their character from the list of books they have uploaded on the archive.org. Many of them are filthy personal attacks on Ahmadis without a shred of evidence.</p>


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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Conclusion</h3>



<p>In conclusion, Anti-Ahmadis have not even spared the words of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) from Tehreef. They consider everything in the opposition of the Ahmadi Muslims to be Halal.</p>



<p>They have clearly and shamelessly added the word &#8216;samaa&#8217; into the hadith quoted by Imam Bayhaqi. It does not exist in any of the manuscripts of the Al-Asma&#8217; wa al-Sifat of Imam Bayhaqi. Neither does Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim have this addition, even though they quote the exact same narration with similar narrators.</p>



<p>We will leave the Anti-Ahmadis with this warning of the Prophet (SAW).</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">لاَ تَكْذِبُوا عَلَىَّ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ كَذَبَ عَلَىَّ فَلْيَلِجِ النَّارَ</p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">The Prophet (ﷺ) said</p>



<p class="has-text-align-left">&#8220;Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me then he will surely enter the Hell-fire.&#8221;</p>



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<cite><a href="https://sunnah.com/bukhari:106" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih al-Bukhari 106]</a></cite></blockquote>
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					<description><![CDATA[Introduction The prevalent belief amongst the general non-Ahmadi Muslims is that Mahdi will lead Jesus (AS) and the other Muslims, despite the fact that Isa (AS) is a prophet and Mahdi is not. They quote the following hadith as a proof of this belief: لاَ تَزَالُ طَائِفَةٌ مِنْ أُمَّتِي يُقَاتِلُونَ . . . <a class="readmore-link" href="https://whiteminaret.org/mahdi/lead-jesus/">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Introduction</h2>



<p>The prevalent belief amongst the general non-Ahmadi Muslims is that Mahdi will lead Jesus (AS) and the other Muslims, despite the fact that Isa (AS) is a prophet and Mahdi is not. They quote the following hadith as a proof of this belief:</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-right">لاَ تَزَالُ طَائِفَةٌ مِنْ أُمَّتِي يُقَاتِلُونَ عَلَى الْحَقِّ ظَاهِرِينَ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ &#8211; قَالَ &#8211; فَيَنْزِلُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَيَقُولُ أَمِيرُهُمْ تَعَالَ صَلِّ لَنَا ‏.‏ فَيَقُولُ لاَ ‏.‏ إِنَّ بَعْضَكُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ أُمَرَاءُ ‏.‏ تَكْرِمَةَ اللَّهِ هَذِهِ الأُمَّةَ</p>



<p>I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their Ameer would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are Ameer over some. This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah.<br><a href="https://sunnah.com/muslim:156" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih Muslim 156]</a></p>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Explanation</h2>



<p><em><strong>Firstly</strong></em>, this hadith does not mention Mahdi at all. It talks about an Ameer from amongst the Muslim leading the Messiah in prayer. Mahdi is not mentioned in the complete compilation of Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari. Claiming that this hadith is mentioning the Mahdi is a big stretch.</p>



<p><em><strong>Secondly</strong></em>, Mahdi won&#8217;t lead anyone in prayer. Rather, the ahadith mention the Messiah leading the Muslims in prayer and other matters. Here are few such ahadith:</p>



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<p>Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (peace be upon him) <strong>son of Mary would descend and would lead </strong>them.</p>



<p><a href="https://sunnah.com/muslim:156" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih Muslim 2897]</a></p>
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<p>What would you do when the son of Mary would descend and <strong>lead you</strong>?<br><a href="https://sunnah.com/muslim:155e" data-type="link" data-id="https://sunnah.com/muslim:155e" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih Muslim 155e]</a></p>
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<p>What would you do when the son of Mary would descend amongst you and would <strong>lead you as one amongst you</strong>?</p>



<p><a href="https://sunnah.com/muslim:155f" data-type="link" data-id="https://sunnah.com/muslim:155f" target="_blank" rel="noopener">[Sahih Muslim 155f]</a></p>
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<p>How will you be when the son of Mary descends amongst you and&nbsp;<strong>is your imam among you.</strong></p>



<p>[<a href="https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3449" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sahih al-Bukhari 3449</a>]</p>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Conclusion</h2>



<p>All these authentic ahadith are clear that it would be Jesus (AS) that would lead the Muslims. It is upto the Muslims to decide if they want to follow the words of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) or their own desires.</p>
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